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Australia v India, First Test
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John Hall
2024-11-22 17:00:23 UTC
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Judging by the scores on day 1, it seems to be an "Interesting" pitch.
India appearto be in the box seat. It's a much-changed Indian side, so
they've done very well. Rohit Sharma is away for the birth of his second
child and Gill is injured. I don't known if Ashwin and Jadeja are
injured or have been dropped.
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John Hall
"I look upon it, that he who does not mind his belly,
will hardly mind anything else."
Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-84)
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Post by John Hall
Judging by the scores on day 1, it seems to be an "Interesting" pitch.
India appearto be in the box seat. It's a much-changed Indian side, so
they've done very well. Rohit Sharma is away for the birth of his second
child and Gill is injured. I don't known if Ashwin and Jadeja are
injured or have been dropped.
Ashwin and Jadeja weren't dropped.

There is ONLY one slot for a spinner.

Ashwin has been a little bit out of form compared to Washington Sundar
in the last three NZ tests.

Team mgmt figured that Washington will add a little bit more to batting
strength especially on bouncy Perth pitch while NOT losing much without
Ashwin.

Nobody expected India to counter punch back Australia after being bowled
out for 150 with two debutants in Harshit Rana and Nitish Kumar Reddy.

Bumrah is currently the best fast bowler in the world and he got support
from Harshit and Siraj who has been off color for a while.

Pitch is NOT that bad. It's a 250 first inning pitch. Batsmen should
have shown more application.

What a riveting mouth watering start to the BGT series.
John Hall
2024-11-22 18:12:22 UTC
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Post by John Hall
Judging by the scores on day 1, it seems to be an "Interesting"
pitch. India appearto be in the box seat. It's a much-changed Indian
side, so they've done very well. Rohit Sharma is away for the birth
of his second child and Gill is injured. I don't known if Ashwin and
Jadeja are injured or have been dropped.
Ashwin and Jadeja weren't dropped.
There is ONLY one slot for a spinner.
Ashwin has been a little bit out of form compared to Washington Sundar
in the last three NZ tests.
Ah, I'd been under the mistaken impression that Sundar bowled
fast-medium.
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Team mgmt figured that Washington will add a little bit more to batting
strength especially on bouncy Perth pitch while NOT losing much without
Ashwin.
Nobody expected India to counter punch back Australia after being
bowled out for 150 with two debutants in Harshit Rana and Nitish Kumar
Reddy.
Who both seem to have done very well, Rana with the ball and Reddy with
the bat.
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Bumrah is currently the best fast bowler in the world
Yes, he has been for quite a while now. If I was selecting a world XI
he'd be the first bowler on the team-sheet.
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and he got support from Harshit and Siraj who has been off color for a
while.
Pitch is NOT that bad. It's a 250 first inning pitch. Batsmen should
have shown more application.
What a riveting mouth watering start to the BGT series.
Indeed.

If that newspaper article you posted the other day is correct, then for
all Border's greatness as a player he doesn't seem the most appropriate
choice to have his name given to the trophy.
--
John Hall
"I look upon it, that he who does not mind his belly,
will hardly mind anything else."
Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-84)
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Post by John Hall
Judging by the scores on day 1, it seems to be an "Interesting"
pitch.  India appearto be in the box seat. It's a much-changed Indian
side, so  they've done very well. Rohit Sharma is away for the birth
of his second  child and Gill is injured. I don't known if Ashwin and
Jadeja are  injured or have been dropped.
Ashwin and Jadeja weren't dropped.
There is ONLY one slot for a spinner.
Ashwin has been a little bit out of form compared to Washington Sundar
in the last three NZ tests.
Ah, I'd been under the mistaken impression that Sundar bowled fast-medium.
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Team mgmt figured that Washington will add a little bit more to
batting strength especially on bouncy Perth pitch while NOT losing
much without Ashwin.
Nobody expected India to counter punch back Australia after being
bowled out for 150 with two debutants in Harshit Rana and Nitish Kumar
Reddy.
Who both seem to have done very well, Rana with the ball and Reddy with
the bat.
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Bumrah is currently the best fast bowler in the world
Yes, he has been for quite a while now. If I was selecting a world XI
he'd be the first bowler on the team-sheet.
Post by FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
and he got support from Harshit and Siraj who has been off color for a
while.
Pitch is NOT that bad. It's a 250 first inning pitch. Batsmen should
have shown more application.
What a riveting mouth watering start to the BGT series.
Indeed.
If that newspaper article you posted the other day is correct, then for
all Border's greatness as a player he doesn't seem the most appropriate
choice to have his name given to the trophy.
That column about Border penned by Malcolm Knox was published by Guardian.

You are right.

Indians in general are too forgiving to a fault.

They should have requested the name to be changed to may be Waugh or
Ponting.
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2024-11-22 18:41:34 UTC
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Post by John Hall
Judging by the scores on day 1, it seems to be an "Interesting" pitch.
India appearto be in the box seat. It's a much-changed Indian side, so
they've done very well. Rohit Sharma is away for the birth of his second
child and Gill is injured. I don't known if Ashwin and Jadeja are
injured or have been dropped.
31302 punters - biggest ever test match crowd in Perth test day 1.


https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/blink-and-you-ll-miss-it-after-17-wickets-already-the-perth-test-will-only-speed-up-from-here-20241122-p5ksud.html

McSweeney on debut fell to a lightning fast in-ducker. He looked like he
had never seen anything like it before, and he probably hadn’t. That’s
not because it’s unusual, it’s the Bumrah effect. It still confounds 50-
and 100-Test batsmen.
miked
2024-11-23 13:21:18 UTC
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Post by John Hall
Judging by the scores on day 1, it seems to be an "Interesting" pitch.
Pitch at the optus looked very green. I think all the matches at the new
stadium have been won by the team batting first. Oz are gonna have to go
some to change that.
Post by John Hall
India appearto be in the box seat. It's a much-changed Indian side, so
they've done very well. Rohit Sharma is away for the birth of his second
child and Gill is injured. I don't known if Ashwin and Jadeja are
injured or have been dropped.
I spose india looked at the wkt and decided that sundar would be more
useful although i would always have jadega although sundar was 1 of the
few who did well in the NZ series.

must be a lot of indians in perth cos the noise they were making every
time oz lost a wiket was tremendous. It looks like 1-0 to india, but oz
arnt like england, they dont usually surrender easily!

mike
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2024-11-23 16:29:28 UTC
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Post by John Hall
Judging by the scores on day 1, it seems to be an "Interesting" pitch.
Pitch at the optus looked very green. I think all the matches at the new
stadium have been won by the team batting first. Oz are gonna have to go
some to change that.
Pitch became easy to bat on Day 2 after the first half an hour.

Mitchell Starc SURVIVED 112 balls.

Australia can chase 300-350 in I2 IF the pitch doesn't deteriorate too much.

So India should score as many as they can and set a target of 400-450
and bat Australia out of the match.
Post by miked
Post by John Hall
India appearto be in the box seat. It's a much-changed Indian side, so
they've done very well. Rohit Sharma is away for the birth of his second
child and Gill is injured. I don't known if Ashwin and Jadeja are
injured or have been dropped.
I spose india looked at the wkt and decided that sundar would be more
useful although i would always have jadega although sundar was 1 of the
few who did well in the NZ series.
must be a lot of indians in perth cos the noise they were making every
time oz lost a wiket was tremendous. It looks like 1-0 to india, but oz
arnt like england, they dont usually surrender easily!
mike
Perth noise is nothing since obviously it's a test match between India
and Australia.

How lucky are the ozzie cricket fans to WITNESS this pulsating India vs
Pak T20 World Cup match in Melbourne.



When Kohli soared, and 90,293 people roared - oh, there's never been
anything like it at MCG

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/t20-world-cup-2022-india-vs-pakistan-when-virat-kohli-soared-and-90293-people-raised-the-roof-at-mcg-1341359


It wasn't the visceral roar of an Anglo-Australian crowd fuelled by
alcohol; this was joyous, unbridled passion for the teams and the game

Alex Malcolm

The MCG is a magical place. The roars here are special. But of all the
great sporting events this grand stadium has hosted, of all the roars
this grand stadium has produced, Sunday evening's might have been the
most extraordinary.

When R Ashwin struck the winning run, the noise that the 90,293 people
inside the MCG made was heard in the suburbs more than two kilometres away.

The late Shane Warne, who now has the great southern stand named after
him at the MCG, had said he had never heard a roar louder than when he
took his 700th Test wicket in front of 89,155 adoring fans on Boxing Day
in 2006. This was louder.

It was louder than when Mitchell Starc rattled Brendon McCullum's stumps
in the opening over of the 2015 ODI World Cup final.

It was louder than any of the recent AFL grand finals that were played
in front of more than 100,000 people.

And it wasn't just one roar. It was every roar. Dozens of them, in a
pulsating match that ebbed and flowed across a riveting, nail-biting 40
overs between India and Pakistan.

Even the sights and sounds before the game had a different feel. Hours
away from the first ball, there were fans decked in blue and green
teeming towards the MCG from all corners of Melbourne. It is rare to see
crowds of such size so far out from the start of an event at this venue.

They were ten deep at the nets outside the Ponsford Stand; they were
chanting and signing in droves outside the members'. Inside the ground,
as the players warmed up, there were cheers.

India and Pakistan had played one another at the MCG before. It was in
1985. They had met twice in ODIs in the Benson and Hedges World
Championship of Cricket then.

Ravi Shastri was Player of the Tournament - called Champion of Champions
- then, and made 63 not out in India's win over Pakistan in the final.
Now he was presiding over the toss as a commentator and received an
almighty roar when he introduced Rohit Sharma and Babar Azam to the
crowd. The noise was so loud that Rohit's decision to bowl first could
not be heard over the loudspeaker.

Then the noise reached a crescendo. When Arshdeep Singh swerved one back
into Babar's pads and Marais Erasmus' finger went up, the MCG heard a
roar unlike any other. It made the hair on the back of your neck stand
up and left goosebumps on your arms.

It wasn't the guttural, visceral roar of an Anglo-Australian crowd
fuelled by alcohol and a thirst for blood. This was joyous, unbridled
passion for a team and the game.


But then Kohli produced his masterpiece. Every sweet six from his blade
nearly raised the roof. The last eight balls were absolute bedlam.
Nearly every fan in the stadium was on their feet. Wickets, sixes,
no-balls, free hits, byes and wides were met with a cacophony that
reverberated around the stadium and into the surrounding areas.

There was joy for India, and heartbreak for Pakistan at the end. But
those who witnessed it and heard it, no matter which side of the result
they were on, felt privileged to be part of it.

Who knows when we will have another one? But savour this one. Savour the
sights. Savour the sounds. There has never been anything like it.
FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
2024-11-23 16:31:21 UTC
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Post by miked
Post by John Hall
Judging by the scores on day 1, it seems to be an "Interesting" pitch.
Pitch at the optus looked very green. I think all the matches at the new
stadium have been won by the team batting first. Oz are gonna have to go
some to change that.
Pitch became easy to bat on Day 2 after the first half an hour.

Mitchell Starc SURVIVED 112 balls.

Australia can chase 300-350 in I2 IF the pitch doesn't deteriorate too much.

So India should score as many as they can and set a target of 400-450
and bat Australia out of the match.
Post by miked
Post by John Hall
India appearto be in the box seat. It's a much-changed Indian side, so
they've done very well. Rohit Sharma is away for the birth of his second
child and Gill is injured. I don't known if Ashwin and Jadeja are
injured or have been dropped.
I spose india looked at the wkt and decided that sundar would be more
useful although i would always have jadega although sundar was 1 of the
few who did well in the NZ series.
must be a lot of indians in perth cos the noise they were making every
time oz lost a wiket was tremendous. It looks like 1-0 to india, but oz
arnt like england, they dont usually surrender easily!
mike
Yes, that too at home in Australia in optus stadium where they never
lost a test.





Perth noise is nothing since obviously it's a test match between India
and Australia.

How lucky are the ozzie cricket fans to WITNESS this pulsating India vs
Pak T20 World Cup match in Melbourne.



When Kohli soared, and 90,293 people roared - oh, there's never been
anything like it at MCG

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/t20-world-cup-2022-india-vs-pakistan-when-virat-kohli-soared-and-90293-people-raised-the-roof-at-mcg-1341359


It wasn't the visceral roar of an Anglo-Australian crowd fuelled by
alcohol; this was joyous, unbridled passion for the teams and the game

Alex Malcolm

The MCG is a magical place. The roars here are special. But of all the
great sporting events this grand stadium has hosted, of all the roars
this grand stadium has produced, Sunday evening's might have been the
most extraordinary.

When R Ashwin struck the winning run, the noise that the 90,293 people
inside the MCG made was heard in the suburbs more than two kilometres away.

The late Shane Warne, who now has the great southern stand named after
him at the MCG, had said he had never heard a roar louder than when he
took his 700th Test wicket in front of 89,155 adoring fans on Boxing Day
in 2006. This was louder.

It was louder than when Mitchell Starc rattled Brendon McCullum's stumps
in the opening over of the 2015 ODI World Cup final.

It was louder than any of the recent AFL grand finals that were played
in front of more than 100,000 people.

And it wasn't just one roar. It was every roar. Dozens of them, in a
pulsating match that ebbed and flowed across a riveting, nail-biting 40
overs between India and Pakistan.

Even the sights and sounds before the game had a different feel. Hours
away from the first ball, there were fans decked in blue and green
teeming towards the MCG from all corners of Melbourne. It is rare to see
crowds of such size so far out from the start of an event at this venue.

They were ten deep at the nets outside the Ponsford Stand; they were
chanting and signing in droves outside the members'. Inside the ground,
as the players warmed up, there were cheers.

India and Pakistan had played one another at the MCG before. It was in
1985. They had met twice in ODIs in the Benson and Hedges World
Championship of Cricket then.

Ravi Shastri was Player of the Tournament - called Champion of Champions
- then, and made 63 not out in India's win over Pakistan in the final.
Now he was presiding over the toss as a commentator and received an
almighty roar when he introduced Rohit Sharma and Babar Azam to the
crowd. The noise was so loud that Rohit's decision to bowl first could
not be heard over the loudspeaker.

Then the noise reached a crescendo. When Arshdeep Singh swerved one back
into Babar's pads and Marais Erasmus' finger went up, the MCG heard a
roar unlike any other. It made the hair on the back of your neck stand
up and left goosebumps on your arms.

It wasn't the guttural, visceral roar of an Anglo-Australian crowd
fuelled by alcohol and a thirst for blood. This was joyous, unbridled
passion for a team and the game.


But then Kohli produced his masterpiece. Every sweet six from his blade
nearly raised the roof. The last eight balls were absolute bedlam.
Nearly every fan in the stadium was on their feet. Wickets, sixes,
no-balls, free hits, byes and wides were met with a cacophony that
reverberated around the stadium and into the surrounding areas.

There was joy for India, and heartbreak for Pakistan at the end. But
those who witnessed it and heard it, no matter which side of the result
they were on, felt privileged to be part of it.

Who knows when we will have another one? But savour this one. Savour the
sights. Savour the sounds. There has never been anything like it.
David North
2024-11-24 08:56:23 UTC
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Post by John Hall
Judging by the scores on day 1, it seems to be an "Interesting" pitch.
Pitch at the optus looked very green. I think all the matches at the new
stadium have been won by the team batting first. Oz are gonna have to go
some to change that.
Well the team batting first has always been Australia until this Test,
so the result will be a first whatever happens.
--
David North
John Hall
2024-11-24 10:19:10 UTC
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Post by David North
Post by miked
Post by John Hall
Judging by the scores on day 1, it seems to be an "Interesting" pitch.
Pitch at the optus looked very green. I think all the matches at the new
stadium have been won by the team batting first. Oz are gonna have to go
some to change that.
Well the team batting first has always been Australia until this Test,
so the result will be a first whatever happens.
After three days, it looks like it's all over bar the shouting. I wonder
how many Aussie supporters will turn up for day four. I imagine there
will be no shortage of Indian fans.
--
John Hall
"I look upon it, that he who does not mind his belly,
will hardly mind anything else."
Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-84)
miked
2024-11-24 15:06:53 UTC
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Post by David North
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Post by John Hall
Judging by the scores on day 1, it seems to be an "Interesting" pitch.
Pitch at the optus looked very green. I think all the matches at the new
stadium have been won by the team batting first. Oz are gonna have to go
some to change that.
Well the team batting first has always been Australia until this Test,
so the result will be a first whatever happens.
After three days, it looks like it's all over bar the shouting. I wonder
how many Aussie supporters will turn up for day four. I imagine there
will be no shortage of Indian fans.
didnt seem very many oz in the house today, but no shortage of vitriol
being thrown online at the oz team for their perf at perth, "worst oz
team ever of all time" etc etc, seems ridiculous. But they looked a bit
short of match practice, hardly any of them had played many shield games
before this match, but most had played odis and t20s. There were 22 byes
and 7 wides in the india total, so Carey must have had a miserable day.
Selecting Sweeny as a makeshift opener on debut against Bumrah on a
greentop wasnt BigMacs best decision. And seeing that India were missing
players like Rohit [baby] and Gill and Shami through injury, it was a
remarkable fightback after theyd been shot out for 150. And Koli finally
gets a 100 again. He'll be around for 5 more years then.

mike
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2024-11-24 16:41:32 UTC
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Post by John Hall
Judging by the scores on day 1, it seems to be an "Interesting" pitch.
  Pitch at the optus looked very green. I think all the matches at
the new
stadium have been won by the team batting first. Oz are gonna have to go
some to change that.
Well the team batting first has always been Australia until this Test,
so the result will be a first whatever happens.
After three days, it looks like it's all over bar the shouting. I wonder
how many Aussie supporters will turn up for day four. I imagine there
will be no shortage of Indian fans.
didnt seem very many oz in the house today, but no shortage of vitriol
being thrown online at the oz team for their perf at perth, "worst oz
team ever of all time" etc etc, seems ridiculous. But they looked a bit
short of match practice, hardly any of them had played many shield games
before this match, but most had played odis and t20s. There were 22 byes
and 7 wides in the india total, so Carey must have had a miserable day.
Selecting Sweeny as a makeshift opener on debut against Bumrah on a
greentop wasnt BigMacs best decision. And seeing that India were missing
players like Rohit [baby] and Gill and Shami through injury, it was a
remarkable fightback after theyd been shot out for 150. And Koli finally
gets a 100 again. He'll be around for 5 more years then.
mike
Kohli will retire in the next two years for sure from test cricket.
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Post by John Hall
Judging by the scores on day 1, it seems to be an "Interesting" pitch.
  Pitch at the optus looked very green. I think all the matches at
the new
stadium have been won by the team batting first. Oz are gonna have to go
some to change that.
Well the team batting first has always been Australia until this Test,
so the result will be a first whatever happens.
After three days, it looks like it's all over bar the shouting. I wonder
how many Aussie supporters will turn up for day four. I imagine there
will be no shortage of Indian fans.
ACB will be very disappointed the test will last most likely only for 4
days.



$2 million a day: Why Australian cricket officials are barracking for India
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/2-million-a-day-why-australian-cricket-officials-are-barracking-for-india-20241123-p5kt05.html

Cricket officials will be barracking for India’s batters to make big
runs in their second innings of the first Test to lessen the risk of a
significant loss in gate takings that may extend across the summer in
bowler-friendly conditions.

Fans of both sides may have enjoyed seeing 17 wickets fall on an
entertaining and chaotic first day that raised the possibility of a
result inside three days, but Cricket Australia fears a truncated Test
will result in a substantial drop in revenue.

More wickets fell on the first day of the Test at Perth Stadium than on
any opening day of a Test match in Australia since 1952.

Should that trend continue across the summer, CA would be facing a
multimillion-dollar hit to its bottom line, while free-to-air broadcast
rights holder Seven faces losing valuable days of cricket content for
which advertisers pay premium rates.

While sales of food and drinks for spectators, plus public ticketing,
memberships and hospitality packages, are hard to quantify, a senior
official with knowledge of business modelling who spoke on the condition
of anonymity told this masthead that lost revenue could amount to about
$2 million a day in the event of an early finish.
John Hall
2024-11-25 10:08:38 UTC
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Judging by the scores on day 1, it seems to be an "Interesting" pitch.
  Pitch at the optus looked very green. I think all the matches at
the new
stadium have been won by the team batting first. Oz are gonna have to go
some to change that.
Well the team batting first has always been Australia until this
Test, so the result will be a first whatever happens.
After three days, it looks like it's all over bar the shouting. I
wonder how many Aussie supporters will turn up for day four. I
imagine there will be no shortage of Indian fans.
ACB will be very disappointed the test will last most likely only for 4
days.
Congratulations to India. I've nothing against Australia, but I confess
that whoever they are playing I always root for the opposition.
--
John Hall
"I look upon it, that he who does not mind his belly,
will hardly mind anything else."
Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-84)
dnorth
2024-11-25 13:50:03 UTC
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Post by John Hall
Congratulations to India. I've nothing against Australia, but I confess
that whoever they are playing I always root for the opposition.
Me too, besides which India going ahead makes the rest of the series
more interesting.

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