Root's highest Test score

[David North]

Root is the first player to make his highest Test score after becoming
England's highest run-scorer since Jack Hobbs made 211 v SA at Lord's in
1924.

[John Hall]

Post by David North
Root is the first player to make his highest Test score after becoming
England's highest run-scorer since Jack Hobbs made 211 v SA at Lord's
in 1924.

And at lunch he and Brook are within two runs of England's highest-ever
partnership of 411 between May and Cowdrey v WI at Edgbaston in 1957.
It's already the highest partnership by two Yorkshiremen for England,
beating Hutton and Leyland who IIRC added 382 at The Oval in 1938 v
Australia.

[John Hall]

Post by John Hall

Post by David North
Root is the first player to make his highest Test score after becoming
England's highest run-scorer since Jack Hobbs made 211 v SA at Lord's
in 1924.

And at lunch he and Brook are within two runs of England's highest-ever
partnership of 411 between May and Cowdrey v WI at Edgbaston in 1957.
It's already the highest partnership by two Yorkshiremen for England,
beating Hutton and Leyland who IIRC added 382 at The Oval in 1938 v
Australia.

They eventually took their partnership to 454. The TV commentators
missed the fact that this is the highest 4th wicket partnership for any
country in Tests, beating the 449 by Voges and Sean Marsh for Australia
v WI in 2015-6.

[dnorth]

Post by John Hall

Post by John Hall

Post by David North
Root is the first player to make his highest Test score after becoming
England's highest run-scorer since Jack Hobbs made 211 v SA at Lord's
in 1924.

And at lunch he and Brook are within two runs of England's highest-ever
partnership of 411 between May and Cowdrey v WI at Edgbaston in 1957.
It's already the highest partnership by two Yorkshiremen for England,
beating Hutton and Leyland who IIRC added 382 at The Oval in 1938 v
Australia.

They eventually took their partnership to 454. The TV commentators
missed the fact that this is the highest 4th wicket partnership for any
country in Tests, beating the 449 by Voges and Sean Marsh for Australia
v WI in 2015-6.

.. or for any wicket below the 3rd. Also the highest to start with the
score over 150.

Players with double-o in their names have made 741 for 4 @ 185.25 in
this match.

The highest Test total by a team losing by an innings is currently 492
by Ireland v SL at Galle last year.

[John Hall]

It looks as if England should quickly wrap things up tomorrow, but I
wonder how differently things might have panned out had the luck not
favoured England on day 3. There was the lbw appeal against Root that
was given not out and, when Pakistan reviewed, turned out to be
"umpire's call". Then there was the ball that hit Brook's body and
rolled onto the stumps, but too gently to dislodge a bail.

[miked]

Post by John Hall
It looks as if England should quickly wrap things up tomorrow, but I
wonder how differently things might have panned out had the luck not
favoured England on day 3. There was the lbw appeal against Root that
was given not out and, when Pakistan reviewed, turned out to be
"umpire's call". Then there was the ball that hit Brook's body and
rolled onto the stumps, but too gently to dislodge a bail.

yes indeed. I dunno if i worked this out right but as root scores about
86 runs per test on average, he needs about 38 more tests at that rate
to overtake Tendulkar. But tms seemed to think it would be much quicker
using his innings average.

mike

[John Hall]

Post by miked

Post by John Hall
It looks as if England should quickly wrap things up tomorrow, but I
wonder how differently things might have panned out had the luck not
favoured England on day 3. There was the lbw appeal against Root that
was given not out and, when Pakistan reviewed, turned out to be
"umpire's call". Then there was the ball that hit Brook's body and
rolled onto the stumps, but too gently to dislodge a bail.

yes indeed. I dunno if i worked this out right but as root scores about
86 runs per test on average, he needs about 38 more tests at that rate
to overtake Tendulkar. But tms seemed to think it would be much quicker
using his innings average.
mike

38 more Tests would probably mean about five more years. Assuming that
he can avoid serious injury, he must have a good chance of doing it, as
his appetite for the game shows no sign of waning.

[dnorth]

Post by John Hall

Post by miked

Post by John Hall
It looks as if England should quickly wrap things up tomorrow, but I
wonder how differently things might have panned out had the luck not
favoured England on day 3. There was the lbw appeal against Root that
was given not out and, when Pakistan reviewed, turned out to be
"umpire's call". Then there was the ball that hit Brook's body and
rolled onto the stumps, but too gently to dislodge a bail.

yes indeed. I dunno if i worked this out right but as root scores about
86 runs per test on average, he needs about 38 more tests at that rate
to overtake Tendulkar. But tms seemed to think it would be much quicker
using his innings average.
mike

38 more Tests would probably mean about five more years. Assuming that
he can avoid serious injury, he must have a good chance of doing it, as
his appetite for the game shows no sign of waning.

His last 38 Tests took about 3 years - the first of them was the 1st
Ashes Test in Dec 2021. The FTP shows 27 Tests up to Feb 2027, not
including the Zim Test mext summer, and the Ashes in 2027 will make 33
if nothing else is added.

So far Root has only missed 2 Tests in his entire career: one in Jan
2014 and one in Jul 2020.

[miked]

Post by dnorth

Post by John Hall

Post by miked
yes indeed. I dunno if i worked this out right but as root scores about
86 runs per test on average, he needs about 38 more tests at that rate
to overtake Tendulkar. But tms seemed to think it would be much quicker
using his innings average.
mike

38 more Tests would probably mean about five more years. Assuming that
he can avoid serious injury, he must have a good chance of doing it, as
his appetite for the game shows no sign of waning.

His last 38 Tests took about 3 years - the first of them was the 1st
Ashes Test in Dec 2021. The FTP shows 27 Tests up to Feb 2027, not
including the Zim Test mext summer, and the Ashes in 2027 will make 33
if nothing else is added.

so if root ups his av per test to 89, he can do it by the end of the
next home ashes! However, of those 33 at least 15 with be against oz and
india,
so his average might come down rather than go up, especially since his
record in oz is probably his poorest. Plus he'll be about 36 by then.
Actually I was disappointed he didnt get to 300, as that would be the
first time theyd be 2 triple centurians in an innings or a match.

mike

[John Hall]

Post by miked

Post by dnorth

Post by John Hall

Post by miked
yes indeed. I dunno if i worked this out right but as root scores about
86 runs per test on average, he needs about 38 more tests at that rate
to overtake Tendulkar. But tms seemed to think it would be much quicker
using his innings average.
mike

38 more Tests would probably mean about five more years. Assuming that
he can avoid serious injury, he must have a good chance of doing it, as
his appetite for the game shows no sign of waning.

His last 38 Tests took about 3 years - the first of them was the 1st
Ashes Test in Dec 2021. The FTP shows 27 Tests up to Feb 2027, not
including the Zim Test mext summer, and the Ashes in 2027 will make 33
if nothing else is added.

so if root ups his av per test to 89, he can do it by the end of the
next home ashes! However, of those 33 at least 15 with be against oz and
india,
so his average might come down rather than go up, especially since his
record in oz is probably his poorest. Plus he'll be about 36 by then.
Actually I was disappointed he didnt get to 300, as that would be the
first time theyd be 2 triple centurians in an innings or a match.
mike

Didn't Jayawardena and Sangakarra both reach 300 when SL made their
950-odd circa 2001, or have I misremembered?

[David North]

Post by John Hall

Post by miked

Post by dnorth

Post by John Hall

Post by miked
yes indeed. I dunno if i worked this out right but as root scores about
86 runs per test on average, he needs about 38 more tests at that rate
to overtake Tendulkar. But tms seemed to think it would be much quicker
using his innings average.
mike

38 more Tests would probably mean about five more years. Assuming that
he can avoid serious injury, he must have a good chance of doing it, as
his appetite for the game shows no sign of waning.

His last 38 Tests took about 3 years - the first of them was the 1st
Ashes Test in Dec 2021. The FTP shows 27 Tests up to Feb 2027, not
including the Zim Test mext summer, and the Ashes in 2027 will make 33
if nothing else is added.

so if root ups his av per test to 89, he can do it by the end of the
next home ashes! However, of those 33 at least 15 with be against oz and
india,
so his average might come down rather than go up, especially since his
record in oz is probably his poorest. Plus he'll be about 36 by then.
Actually I was disappointed he didnt get to 300, as that would be the
first time theyd be 2 triple centurians in an innings or a match.
mike

Didn't Jayawardena and Sangakarra both reach 300 when SL made their
950-odd circa 2001, or have I misremembered?

Jayawardene made 374 and Sangakkara 287, which is the highest score not
to be the highest in the match (v SA, SSC, Colombo, 2006). The only
other one higher than Root's 262 is Aravinda de Silva's 267 at
Wellington in 1990/91, which Martin Crowe followed with 299.

[John Hall]

Post by David North

Post by John Hall

Post by miked

Post by dnorth

Post by John Hall

Post by miked
yes indeed. I dunno if i worked this out right but as root scores
86 runs per test on average, he needs about 38 more tests at that rate
to overtake Tendulkar. But tms seemed to think it would be much quicker
using his innings average.
mike

38 more Tests would probably mean about five more years. Assuming that
he can avoid serious injury, he must have a good chance of doing it, as
his appetite for the game shows no sign of waning.

His last 38 Tests took about 3 years - the first of them was the 1st
Ashes Test in Dec 2021. The FTP shows 27 Tests up to Feb 2027, not
including the Zim Test mext summer, and the Ashes in 2027 will make 33
if nothing else is added.

so if root ups his av per test to 89, he can do it by the end of the
next home ashes! However, of those 33 at least 15 with be against oz and
india,
so his average might come down rather than go up, especially since his
record in oz is probably his poorest. Plus he'll be about 36 by then.
Actually I was disappointed he didnt get to 300, as that would be the
first time theyd be 2 triple centurians in an innings or a match.
mike

Didn't Jayawardena and Sangakarra both reach 300 when SL made their
950-odd circa 2001, or have I misremembered?

Jayawardene made 374 and Sangakkara 287, which is the highest score not
to be the highest in the match (v SA, SSC, Colombo, 2006). The only
other one higher than Root's 262 is Aravinda de Silva's 267 at
Wellington in 1990/91, which Martin Crowe followed with 299.

Thanks.

[dnorth]

Post by David North
Root is the first player to make his highest Test score after becoming
England's highest run-scorer since Jack Hobbs made 211 v SA at Lord's in
1924.

I should have said "reach" rather that "make", as he made part of his
score before becoming the highest run-scorer.

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Post by David North
Root is the first player to make his highest Test score after becoming
England's highest run-scorer since Jack Hobbs made 211 v SA at Lord's in
1924.

One blot on Joe Root's test career is NOT scoring a century in Australia.

[John Hall]

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Post by David North
Root is the first player to make his highest Test score after
becoming England's highest run-scorer since Jack Hobbs made 211 v SA
at Lord's in 1924.

One blot on Joe Root's test career is NOT scoring a century in Australia.

Yep. I imagine that he's very keen to put that right. ISTR one pundit
suggesting that his favourite dab down to third man is more risky in
Australia, where the ball tends to bounce more. Of course it can't have
helped that on all of his tours there (three, is it?) England have
struggled. Though I suppose you can argue that his batting struggles
there have been a major factor in England's struggles rather than the
reverse.