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SORE LOSER Michael Vaughan wants TV Cameras should be placed on DRS operators
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FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
2024-02-26 08:16:14 UTC
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From what I understand and what was said by Hawkeye owner Paul Hawkins,
operators CANNOT CHEAT the DRS system because everything is automated.

The DRS System mistakenly showed a different ball in the recent PSL T20
game but OPERATORS themselves CANNOT cheat and make the DRS System show
the ball pitching somewhere else than where it originally pitched.

Operators CANNOT CHANGE or MANIPULATE the software to show a DIFFERENT
ball trajectory either.



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India vs England: Michael Vaughan says TV cameras should be placed on
DRS operators

Joe Root's dismissal in the second innings has caused a stir as the ball
tracking indicated the ball pitched just in line and would have hit
Root's leg stump.

Former England captain Michael Vaughan said cameras should be placed on
Decision Review System (DRS) operators in order to provide
‘transparency,’ after Joe Root’s dismissal on Day 3 of the fourth Test
has caused a stir.

“I’m not saying anyone is cheating,” said Vaughan on Test match Special
Podcast.

“I’m trying to give an answer for when a decision is made and we all
disagree with it. If the person on Hawk-Eye is filmed it puts the noise
to bed.”

Umpires call has been criticised by the England captain Ben Stokes after
the Rajkot Test. However, in Ranchi, England were benefitted from four
‘umpire’s call’ decisions during India’s first innings and even Stokes
was survived by the decision in England’s second innings.

“You just want something that is consistent,” Stokes had told BBC Sport.

“Umpire’s call, personally I think we should just get rid of it. If it’s
hitting the stumps, it’s hitting the stumps, then it’s a level playing
field.

“I can understand supporters on both sides being frustrated with the
decisions that have been made. It doesn’t look like Hawk-Eye is having a
great series,” said Vaughan.

“The most important operators of decisions now are in the trucks. We
need to have a camera in the truck to give an understanding of how it
all comes to that decision.

“All I want is full transparency. If it takes the International Cricket
Council employing someone to put in the trucks for integrity, they have
to do that as well.”

“For the game in general, for people watching, we need to see who is
operating, because the person operating the technology is more important
than the umpires,” he added.

Former England bowler Steven Finn has backed umpire’s decision. He
explained on TNT Sports: “From the naked eye, when you’re watching the
delivery, you think that pitched outside leg and all your cricketing
intuition sort of kicks in, and it’s like it can’t have pitched in line
with the stumps and ended up where it did.

“There’s no umpires call on where the ball pitches so, when the
projection comes through and the DRS has pulled its numbers into his
computer on the initial contact with the pitch, there’s no contention
about where that has pitched as a result of the technology.

“Where that ball pitches, according to the technology that is meant to
be very accurate, they’re saying that what it looks like is 51 per cent
of that ball is pitching within the outside line of the stump and
therefore it’s out.”

A rearguard effort from Dhruv Jurel and a five-wicket haul by
Ravichandran Ashwin put India back in the fourth Test against England on
Sunday’s day three, as they chase 192 for a series win.

India reached 40-0 at stumps, needing another 152 in Ranchi to win their
third straight match and the five-Test series. Captain Rohit Sharma was
unbeaten on 24, with Yashasvi Jaiswal on 16.
John Hall
2024-02-26 10:04:36 UTC
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Post by FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
Former England captain Michael Vaughan said cameras should be placed on
Decision Review System (DRS) operators in order to provide
‘transparency,’ after Joe Root’s dismissal on Day 3 of the fourth
Test has caused a stir.
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I'm not sure that that would achieve a lot, since AIUI once play starts
all the operators are doing is ensuring that the third umpire gets to
see what he has asked for. But I suppose if the cameras that Vaughan
wants were installed and showed that to be the case, then it might boost
confidence in the system.

He has an article in the Daily Telegraph today in which he unfavourably
compares the degree of openness in DRS with that of VAR in football.
That surprised me, as it seems to be pretty widely believed in English
football that VAR is something of a shambles.
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David North
2024-02-26 14:16:16 UTC
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Post by John Hall
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Post by FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
Former England captain Michael Vaughan said cameras should be placed
on Decision Review System (DRS) operators in order to provide
‘transparency,’ after Joe Root’s dismissal on Day 3 of the fourth Test
has caused a stir.
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I'm not sure that that would achieve a lot, since AIUI once play starts
all the operators are doing is ensuring that the third umpire gets to
see what he has asked for.
Is the impact point detected automatically?
Post by John Hall
But I suppose if the cameras that Vaughan
wants were installed and showed that to be the case, then it might boost
confidence in the system.
Maybe they could install Vaughan in there for a couple of days and he
could report his findings.
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David North
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2024-02-26 15:11:01 UTC
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FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
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Post by FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
Former England captain Michael Vaughan said cameras should be
placed on Decision Review System (DRS) operators in order to
provide ˜transparency", after Joe Root's dismissal on Day 3
of the fourth Test has caused a stir.
<snip>
I'm not sure that that would achieve a lot, since AIUI once play
starts all the operators are doing is ensuring that the third
umpire gets to see what he has asked for. But I suppose if the
cameras that Vaughan wants were installed and showed that to be
the case, then it might boost confidence in the system.
He has an article in the Daily Telegraph today in which he
unfavourably compares the degree of openness in DRS with that of
VAR in football. That surprised me, as it seems to be pretty
widely believed in English football that VAR is something of a
shambles.
Vaughan has never struck me as the most level-headed analyst in the
commentary box.
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Cheers, Harvey
FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
2024-02-28 09:30:46 UTC
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Post by John Hall
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Post by FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
Former England captain Michael Vaughan said cameras should be placed
on Decision Review System (DRS) operators in order to provide
‘transparency,’ after Joe Root’s dismissal on Day 3 of the fourth Test
has caused a stir.
<snip>
I'm not sure that that would achieve a lot, since AIUI once play starts
all the operators are doing is ensuring that the third umpire gets to
see what he has asked for. But I suppose if the cameras that Vaughan
wants were installed and showed that to be the case, then it might boost
confidence in the system.
WHY didn't Michael Vaughan ASK for Camera System to be installed on DRS
system operators in the LAST Ashes series in England despite some
controversial DRS decisions?
Post by John Hall
He has an article in the Daily Telegraph today in which he unfavourably
compares the degree of openness in DRS with that of VAR in football.
That surprised me, as it seems to be pretty widely believed in English
football that VAR is something of a shambles.
max.it
2024-02-28 12:49:44 UTC
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On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 01:30:46 -0800, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
Post by FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
Post by John Hall
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Post by FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
Former England captain Michael Vaughan said cameras should be placed
on Decision Review System (DRS) operators in order to provide
‘transparency,’ after Joe Root’s dismissal on Day 3 of the fourth Test
has caused a stir.
<snip>
I'm not sure that that would achieve a lot, since AIUI once play starts
all the operators are doing is ensuring that the third umpire gets to
see what he has asked for. But I suppose if the cameras that Vaughan
wants were installed and showed that to be the case, then it might boost
confidence in the system.
WHY didn't Michael Vaughan ASK for Camera System to be installed on DRS
system operators in the LAST Ashes series in England despite some
controversial DRS decisions?
I always got the impression that Vaughan was a decent cricketer but
nothing without Fletcher pulling his strings.
After his playing days he became totally coin operated and what you
have read is what he says whenever nobody has fed his coinslot and he
has to attempt to think by himself.

max.it.
Post by FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
Post by John Hall
He has an article in the Daily Telegraph today in which he unfavourably
compares the degree of openness in DRS with that of VAR in football.
That surprised me, as it seems to be pretty widely believed in English
football that VAR is something of a shambles.
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