Anyone know the FM frequency for TMS at the cricket grounds please?

[Quaffa]

Hi.

I bought one of those 'hook over your ear' radios a few years back to
listen to TMS while at Old Trafford watching a test. I'm sure the
battery will not have much life left in it, and I'm at Old Trafford
again next month for The Ashes.

Rather than have to shell out for another of those crappy little radios,
I thought I might just take my proper FM radio and pick it up on that.
But I haven't any idea what the frequency is. I know that it is the same
for all the grounds, because my Old Trafford radio worked fine at Lord's
a couple of times as well.

So, does anyone know what the in-ground FM frequency for TMS is please?

Cheers,
Q

[unknown]

Post by Quaffa
Hi.
I bought one of those 'hook over your ear' radios a few years back to
listen to TMS while at Old Trafford watching a test. I'm sure the
battery will not have much life left in it, and I'm at Old Trafford
again next month for The Ashes.
Rather than have to shell out for another of those crappy little radios,
I thought I might just take my proper FM radio and pick it up on that.
But I haven't any idea what the frequency is. I know that it is the same
for all the grounds, because my Old Trafford radio worked fine at Lord's
a couple of times as well.
So, does anyone know what the in-ground FM frequency for TMS is please?
Cheers,
Q

It depends where you are. I don't think here would be a special
frequency for a ground, but the local AM/MW frequency would pick it
up, or 198 longwave. I get TMS on 720 MW from the Altnagelvin
transmitter in Co L'Derry.
Those little radios might have a lithium battery and they last for
years.

max.it

[Big Al]

Post by unknown

Post by Quaffa
Hi.
I bought one of those 'hook over your ear' radios a few years back to
listen to TMS while at Old Trafford watching a test. I'm sure the
battery will not have much life left in it, and I'm at Old Trafford
again next month for The Ashes.
Rather than have to shell out for another of those crappy little radios,
I thought I might just take my proper FM radio and pick it up on that.
But I haven't any idea what the frequency is. I know that it is the same
for all the grounds, because my Old Trafford radio worked fine at Lord's
a couple of times as well.
So, does anyone know what the in-ground FM frequency for TMS is please?
Cheers,
Q

It depends where you are. I don't think here would be a special
frequency for a ground, but the local AM/MW frequency would pick it
up, or 198 longwave. I get TMS on 720 MW from the Altnagelvin
transmitter in Co L'Derry.
Those little radios might have a lithium battery and they last for
years.
max.it

Interesting question. I'm a bit of a radio nerd and took my Grundig 'Yacht Boy' to a Champions Trophy match in Cardiff recently. Out of curiosity, I searched through the FM band trying to find the Sky Sports commentary that you can get on those earpiece things, but couldn't find it. It's possible they broadcast it on a frequency that is off the scale of regular radios.

If I were you, I'd make a quick trip to Argos before the game and get a radio with LW on it.

Big Al

[Quaffa]

Post by Big Al

Post by unknown

Post by Quaffa
Hi.
I bought one of those 'hook over your ear' radios a few years back to
listen to TMS while at Old Trafford watching a test. I'm sure the
battery will not have much life left in it, and I'm at Old Trafford
again next month for The Ashes.
Rather than have to shell out for another of those crappy little radios,
I thought I might just take my proper FM radio and pick it up on that.
But I haven't any idea what the frequency is. I know that it is the same
for all the grounds, because my Old Trafford radio worked fine at Lord's
a couple of times as well.
So, does anyone know what the in-ground FM frequency for TMS is please?
Cheers,
Q

It depends where you are. I don't think here would be a special
frequency for a ground, but the local AM/MW frequency would pick it
up, or 198 longwave. I get TMS on 720 MW from the Altnagelvin
transmitter in Co L'Derry.
Those little radios might have a lithium battery and they last for
years.
max.it

Interesting question. I'm a bit of a radio nerd and took my Grundig 'Yacht Boy' to a Champions Trophy match in Cardiff recently. Out of curiosity, I searched through the FM band trying to find the Sky Sports commentary that you can get on those earpiece things, but couldn't find it. It's possible they broadcast it on a frequency that is off the scale of regular radios.
If I were you, I'd make a quick trip to Argos before the game and get a radio with LW on it.
Big Al

Thanks guys. I'm pretty sure that it'll be an FM frequency in the range
they allocate to other major events, such as 'Radio Silverstone' at the
British GP, trouble is I don't know whereabouts on the band it is.
I intend taking a portable scanner to listen on, so I ought to be able
to get it even if it is 'off the scale'

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[Offramp]

I have a vision of you shouting in the stands beside equipment resembling Hancock's in The Radio Ham.

[Quaffa]

Post by Offramp
I have a vision of you shouting in the stands beside equipment resembling Hancock's in The Radio Ham.

Erm... it's just a little less bulky than that...

Right. If anyone is interested, I can exclusively reveal, (I'm pretty
certain it's exclusive; I've not seen it promulgated anywhere else, and
neither the over-the-ear-radio people, nor TMS themselves, seemed
willing to divulge it to me), that the frequency of TMS broadcasts
within the grounds is... 62.3MHz FM

Or, at least, it was at Old Trafford today, and I'm fairly sure it
doesn’t change from ground to ground.

[Big Al]

Post by Quaffa

Post by Offramp
I have a vision of you shouting in the stands beside equipment resembling Hancock's in The Radio Ham.

Erm... it's just a little less bulky than that...
Right. If anyone is interested, I can exclusively reveal, (I'm pretty
certain it's exclusive; I've not seen it promulgated anywhere else, and
neither the over-the-ear-radio people, nor TMS themselves, seemed
willing to divulge it to me), that the frequency of TMS broadcasts
within the grounds is... 62.3MHz FM
Or, at least, it was at Old Trafford today, and I'm fairly sure it
doesn’t change from ground to ground.

Thanks, that has solved a mystery that has bugged me (albeit in a minor way) for about four years now!

[k***@gmail.com]

If we know the frequency, can't we just use FM function of mobile phone with a headphone, to listen to the commentary? Or am I missing something?

[max.it]

Post by k***@gmail.com
If we know the frequency, can't we just use FM function of mobile phone with a headphone, to listen to the commentary? Or am I missing something?

TMS not on FM. It's on Radio 5live extra 198 LW, and MW at 720AM where
I live.

max.it

[David North]

Post by max.it

Post by k***@gmail.com
If we know the frequency, can't we just use FM function of mobile phone
with a headphone, to listen to the commentary? Or am I missing something?

TMS not on FM. It's on Radio 5live extra 198 LW, and MW at 720AM where
I live.

I assume that Kaushal was asking about the local transmission from the
grounds. The same question was asked in 2013, and the answer given then was
62.3MHz.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/uk.sport.cricket/2WJUyalcSxY/KjWKRNU3ezkJ

[s***@gmail.com]

Hi all, this is pretty much the only thread on internet addressing this concern. So thanks for that.

I think max.it is right. TMS is not available on BBC Radio 4 FM, but only on BBC Radio 4 198 LW.

I was surprised to see that the two have slightly different schedules, with BBC Radio 4 FM missing the TMS. Links below, look at 9th Aug 2018 10:30 am, Start of next England vs India test.
BBC Radio 4 LW schedule - https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p00fzl7k/2018/08/09#morning
BBC Radio 4 FM Scheudle - https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p00fzl7j/2018/08/09#morning

BBC mentions BBC Radio 4 FM is now available between 92-95 FM, 103-105 FM - http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/info/frequencies.shtml, so may be FM 62.3MHz still works and runs a schedule same as 198 LW. Or if this does not work anymore, please let me know. I see the solution was from 2013. Either way I see a concern with being able to tune into it.

Looking at Sony radio - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-ICFP26-CE7-Portable-AM-Radio/dp/B013JGHUM2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1533570980&sr=8-2&keywords=sony+radio
I find its available FM frequency starts from 87.5 Mhz, would you know if there are other transistors which allow tuning in at lower frequency - 62.3 Mhz earlier suggested?

End goal is to have a device which can provide an absolute no lag cricket/other sports commentary in stadiums across UK(or world even)

Thanks again.
Sandeep

[John Hall]

Post by s***@gmail.com
Hi all, this is pretty much the only thread on internet addressing this
concern. So thanks for that.
I think max.it is right. TMS is not available on BBC Radio 4 FM, but
only on BBC Radio 4 198 LW.

Yes, that has always been the case. However I believe there's a special
very short-range service for fans at the ground, though I don't know
what frequency it uses. TMS is also available of Radio 5 Live Sports
Extra, but I think that is on DAB and the Internet only.

<snip>

Post by s***@gmail.com
End goal is to have a device which can provide an absolute no lag
cricket/other sports commentary in stadiums across UK(or world even)

If you want to rebroadcast the TMS commentary, then I think that would
be illegal.

[David North]

Post by John Hall

Post by s***@gmail.com
Hi all, this is pretty much the only thread on internet addressing this
concern. So thanks for that.
I think max.it is right. TMS is not available on BBC Radio 4 FM, but only
on BBC Radio 4 198 LW.

Yes, that has always been the case. However I believe there's a special
very short-range service for fans at the ground, though I don't know what
frequency it uses. TMS is also available of Radio 5 Live Sports Extra, but
I think that is on DAB and the Internet only.

... and through TV (on Freeview, certainly, and presumably other services).

[Offramp]

One of the problems with the Internet era isn’t that four men using four different devices will receive the broadcast at 4 different times. One can no longer watch cricket on Sky with commentary from Radio 5.

[Big Al]

Post by Offramp
One of the problems with the Internet era isn’t that four men using four different devices will receive the broadcast at 4 different times. One can no longer watch cricket on Sky with commentary from Radio 5.

You can if you listen through a laptop as you can pause the audio so it lines up with the video or vice versa.

I can see the advantages for - to pluck one example from the air - a bookmaker overseas to have delay-free coverage of a cricket match.

Big Al

[max.it]

On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 15:29:35 -0700 (PDT), Big Al

Post by Big Al

One of the problems with the Internet era isn’t that four men using four different devices will receive the broadcast at 4 different times. One can no longer watch cricket on Sky with commentary from Radio 5.

You can if you listen through a laptop as you can pause the audio so it lines up with the video or vice versa.
I can see the advantages for - to pluck one example from the air - a bookmaker overseas to have delay-free coverage of a cricket match.
Big Al

Remeber in the 1970s there was a horse racing scam which resulted in
people with long hair being inspected for ear pieces by the bookie
shops.

max.it


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[Big Al]

Post by max.it
On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 15:29:35 -0700 (PDT), Big Al

Post by Big Al

Post by Offramp
One of the problems with the Internet era isn’t that four men using four different devices will receive the broadcast at 4 different times. One can no longer watch cricket on Sky with commentary from Radio 5.

You can if you listen through a laptop as you can pause the audio so it lines up with the video or vice versa.
I can see the advantages for - to pluck one example from the air - a bookmaker overseas to have delay-free coverage of a cricket match.
Big Al

Remeber in the 1970s there was a horse racing scam which resulted in
people with long hair being inspected for ear pieces by the bookie
shops.
max.it

Would that have involved Barney Curley by any chance?

Big Al

[Big Al]

Post by s***@gmail.com
End goal is to have a device which can provide an absolute no lag cricket/other sports commentary in stadiums across UK(or world even)

Hmm...

Big Al

[Richard Dixon]

Post by s***@gmail.com
End goal is to have a device which can provide an absolute no lag cricket/other sports commentary in stadiums across UK(or world even)

It may not help - and I'm sure this has already been mentioned in the thread but you can buy earpieces in the ground - I have a couple collected from down the years from the Oval that work on repeated visits.

Some have a button to be able to switch between Sky Sports and TMS commentary, but I can also get BBC Surrey/London for the county games at the Oval. There is no tuner on the earpiece. From the "tinniness" of the sound, I can only assume that it's an FM frequency that's being broadcast.

Richard

[j***@gmail.com]

Post by Quaffa
Hi.
I bought one of those 'hook over your ear' radios a few years back to
listen to TMS while at Old Trafford watching a test. I'm sure the
battery will not have much life left in it, and I'm at Old Trafford
again next month for The Ashes.
Rather than have to shell out for another of those crappy little radios,
I thought I might just take my proper FM radio and pick it up on that.
But I haven't any idea what the frequency is. I know that it is the same
for all the grounds, because my Old Trafford radio worked fine at Lord's
a couple of times as well.
So, does anyone know what the in-ground FM frequency for TMS is please?
Cheers,
Q

plenty of radios around that receive this

https://store.lords.org/collections/match-day-essentials/products/lords-digital-display-radio

or do a search on ebay 60-108MHz

[John Hall]

Post by j***@gmail.com

Post by Quaffa
Hi.
I bought one of those 'hook over your ear' radios a few years back to
listen to TMS while at Old Trafford watching a test. I'm sure the
battery will not have much life left in it, and I'm at Old Trafford
again next month for The Ashes.
Rather than have to shell out for another of those crappy little radios,
I thought I might just take my proper FM radio and pick it up on that.
But I haven't any idea what the frequency is. I know that it is the same
for all the grounds, because my Old Trafford radio worked fine at Lord's
a couple of times as well.
So, does anyone know what the in-ground FM frequency for TMS is please?
Cheers,
Q

plenty of radios around that receive this
https://store.lords.org/collections/match-day-essentials/products/lords-
digital-display-radio
or do a search on ebay 60-108MHz

After almost six years, I doubt that the OP is still waiting for an
answer!

[jack fredricks]

Post by John Hall
After almost six years, I doubt that the OP is still waiting for an
answer!

Not so sure about that. I've been waiting a long time for RH to answer some questions.

[Big Al]

Post by jack fredricks

Post by John Hall
After almost six years, I doubt that the OP is still waiting for an
answer!

Not so sure about that. I've been waiting a long time for RH to answer some questions.

I'm waiting for Max to finish his horse racing scam anecdote!

Big Al

[max.it]

On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 13:49:45 -0700 (PDT), Big Al

Post by Big Al

Post by jack fredricks

Post by John Hall
After almost six years, I doubt that the OP is still waiting for an
answer!

Not so sure about that. I've been waiting a long time for RH to answer some questions.

I'm waiting for Max to finish his horse racing scam anecdote!
Big Al

Which ending were you expecting ? ;-)
I don't know how they dunnit, but everyone with long hair was
'inspected' on entry. Something to do with delays in broadcasting
reaching the bookie's shop. Only could have been flat racing, the
bookie taking a bet after the off could actually be taking a bet after
the finish or very close to it. Fine for the bookie most of the time,
unless the punter knows the result or the probable result.

There must be some archived news online about that. A date guess it
would have been mid 1970's.

max.it

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[Adrian Stevenson]

Worked perfectly at Trent Bridge last week with one of these at 62.3 for TMS

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07QNK9NMG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

'FM Battery Operated Pocket Radio, COVVY Mini Size 60-108MHz Stereo Radio Handheld FM Radio Receiver/w DSP, LCD Display & Earphone '

Ade

Post by max.it
On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 13:49:45 -0700 (PDT), Big Al

Post by Big Al

Post by jack fredricks

Post by John Hall
After almost six years, I doubt that the OP is still waiting for an
answer!

Not so sure about that. I've been waiting a long time for RH to answer some questions.

I'm waiting for Max to finish his horse racing scam anecdote!
Big Al

Which ending were you expecting ? ;-)
I don't know how they dunnit, but everyone with long hair was
'inspected' on entry. Something to do with delays in broadcasting
reaching the bookie's shop. Only could have been flat racing, the
bookie taking a bet after the off could actually be taking a bet after
the finish or very close to it. Fine for the bookie most of the time,
unless the punter knows the result or the probable result.
There must be some archived news online about that. A date guess it
would have been mid 1970's.
max.it
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[John Hall]

Post by Adrian Stevenson
Worked perfectly at Trent Bridge last week with one of these at 62.3 for TMS
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07QNK9NMG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_titl
e_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
'FM Battery Operated Pocket Radio, COVVY Mini Size 60-108MHz Stereo
Radio Handheld FM Radio Receiver/w DSP, LCD Display & Earphone '
Ade

I see that in 2019 I posted "After almost six years, I doubt that the OP
is still waiting for an answer!" It's now been eight years. :)

John

Post by Adrian Stevenson

Post by max.it
On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 13:49:45 -0700 (PDT), Big Al

Post by Big Al

Post by jack fredricks

Post by John Hall
After almost six years, I doubt that the OP is still waiting for an
answer!

Not so sure about that. I've been waiting a long time for RH to
answer some questions.

I'm waiting for Max to finish his horse racing scam anecdote!
Big Al

Which ending were you expecting ? ;-)
I don't know how they dunnit, but everyone with long hair was
'inspected' on entry. Something to do with delays in broadcasting
reaching the bookie's shop. Only could have been flat racing, the
bookie taking a bet after the off could actually be taking a bet after
the finish or very close to it. Fine for the bookie most of the time,
unless the punter knows the result or the probable result.
There must be some archived news online about that. A date guess it
would have been mid 1970's.
max.it
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