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Mister Johnson
2024-11-14 20:18:26 UTC
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Goa 'recovered' from 121-2 to 727-2dec thanks to triple-centurions
Kashyap Bakle and Snehal Kauthankar, beating Arunachal Pradesh
by an innings and 551 runs.
miked
2024-11-14 21:45:12 UTC
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Post by Mister Johnson
Goa 'recovered' from 121-2 to 727-2dec thanks to triple-centurions
Kashyap Bakle and Snehal Kauthankar, beating Arunachal Pradesh
by an innings and 551 runs.
it seems a very 1 sided match, all over in less than 2 days and 144
overs. i notice that tendulkars son took 5 wkts for Goa.

mike
David North
2024-11-15 06:47:24 UTC
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Post by Mister Johnson
Goa 'recovered' from 121-2 to 727-2dec thanks to triple-centurions
Kashyap Bakle and Snehal Kauthankar, beating Arunachal Pradesh
by an innings and 551 runs.
it seems a very 1 sided match, all over in less than 2 days and 144
overs.
It was always likely to be one-sided. Arunachal Pradesh are surely the
weakest FC team in Indian cricket. I mentioned them here a couple of
years ago when they suffered the heaviest margin of defeat by runs in
any List A match (435 runs).

Bakle was making his FC debut btw. His 300* was the 2nd-highest score by
a FC debutant after Sakibul Gani's 341 for Bihar v Mizoram in 2021/22.
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David North
John Hall
2024-11-15 09:48:47 UTC
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Post by Mister Johnson
Goa 'recovered' from 121-2 to 727-2dec thanks to triple-centurions
Kashyap Bakle and Snehal Kauthankar, beating Arunachal Pradesh
by an innings and 551 runs.
Yes, apparently it is the seventh largest margin of victory in f-c
cricket, though I'm a little surprised that it isn't even higher in the
list.
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John Hall

"I don't even butter my bread; I consider that cooking."
Katherine Cebrian
David North
2024-11-16 06:34:54 UTC
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Post by Mister Johnson
Goa 'recovered' from 121-2 to 727-2dec thanks to triple-centurions
Kashyap Bakle and Snehal Kauthankar, beating Arunachal Pradesh
by an innings and 551 runs.
Yes, apparently it is the seventh largest margin of victory in f-c
cricket, though I'm a little surprised that it isn't even higher in the
list.
It's the largest innings victory for 50 years, and 4 of the 6 above it
were timeless matches, the exceptions being the two in Pakistan.

https://stats.acscricket.com/Records/First_Class/Overall/Team/Highest_Innings_Run_Margin.html
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David North
Andy Walker
2024-11-16 09:40:19 UTC
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Post by David North
It's the largest innings victory for 50 years, and 4 of the 6 above
it were timeless matches, the exceptions being the two in Pakistan.
https://stats.acscricket.com/Records/First_Class/Overall/Team/Highest_Innings_Run_Margin.html
Scanning further down the list, amidst all the usual suspects, I
spotted a win by an innings and 358 by Epsom [!] vs Middlesex, from 1815.
Sadly the actual scorecard is paywalled, but one suspects (a) that Epsom
didn't play that many f-c matches, and (b) that a score of at least 358
must have been pretty unusual in those days.
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Andy Walker, Nottingham.
Andy's music pages: www.cuboid.me.uk/andy/Music
Composer of the day: www.cuboid.me.uk/andy/Music/Composers/Richards
John Hall
2024-11-16 10:52:51 UTC
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Post by David North
It's the largest innings victory for 50 years, and 4 of the 6 above
it were timeless matches, the exceptions being the two in Pakistan.
https://stats.acscricket.com/Records/First_Class/Overall/Team/Highest_I
nnings_Run_Margin.html
Scanning further down the list, amidst all the usual suspects, I
spotted a win by an innings and 358 by Epsom [!] vs Middlesex, from 1815.
Sadly the actual scorecard is paywalled, but one suspects (a) that Epsom
didn't play that many f-c matches, and (b) that a score of at least 358
must have been pretty unusual in those days.
I'm a subscriber to CricketArchive, so can add a little detail.
Unfortunately the bowlers were not credited with dismissals where the
batsman was caught back then, and the runs conceded by each bowler were
seemingly not recorded either, so bowling analyses aren't available.

The match was scheduled for three days but completed in two. Middlesex
51 (with two batsmen run out) and 67 (with 3 batsmen "absent hurt" - one
suspects that they might have simply buggered off when it became clear
that a heavy defeat was inevitable). Epsom (Ladbroke 116, F Woodbridge
107, EC Woodbridge 70). According to the footnotes, "F Woodbridge passed
his previous highest score of 14 in First-Class matches". (But research
shows that it was only his third f-c match.) The footnotes don't mention
it, but I suspect that at the time the 476 might have been the highest
f-c innings total.

Thomas Lord, the founder of Lord's, was playing for Epsom. He was aged
59 and it was his final f-c match. His son, also Thomas Lord, was
playing for Middlesex.

According to Wikipedia, the 19th century Epsom club is first recorded on
28–29 July 1814 when it played Brighton at the Royal New Ground in
Brighton. Brighton won by 10 wickets. The club's last known important
match in 1819 was against Hampshire at Epsom Downs and they lost that by
135 runs. So it seems that their dominance against Middlesex may have
been something of a rarity.
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John Hall

"I don't even butter my bread; I consider that cooking."
Katherine Cebrian
Andy Walker
2024-11-16 16:17:36 UTC
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I'm a subscriber to CricketArchive, so can add a little detail. [...]
Thanks, John. Luckily, the Notts CCC web page covers most of my
statistical needs!
--
Andy Walker, Nottingham.
Andy's music pages: www.cuboid.me.uk/andy/Music
Composer of the day: www.cuboid.me.uk/andy/Music/Composers/Richards
John Hall
2024-11-16 18:17:55 UTC
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Post by Andy Walker
I'm a subscriber to CricketArchive, so can add a little detail. [...]
Thanks, John. Luckily, the Notts CCC web page covers most of my
statistical needs!
It was too intriguing for me to be able to resist investigating.

I probably ought to add that though the ACS, and hence CricketArchive,
arbitrarily set the date for the start of f-c cricket as 1800, some
other authorities use a later date (one of those being 1864).
Unfortunately until 1895 nobody attempted to define which matches were
f-c, and MCC - and after they were formed the ICC, ECB etc - have never
attempted to rule officially on matches prior to that date. (You
probably know all that, but some other readers might not.)
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John Hall

"I don't even butter my bread; I consider that cooking."
Katherine Cebrian
miked
2024-11-16 16:50:19 UTC
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Post by John Hall
Thomas Lord, the founder of Lord's, was playing for Epsom. He was aged
59 and it was his final f-c match. His son, also Thomas Lord, was
playing for Middlesex.
father vs son on opposite teams, that cant have happened too often.
Perhaps Alan Butcher vs 1 of his sons as he spent the last years of his
career at Glamorgan?

mike
John Hall
2024-11-16 18:21:51 UTC
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Post by John Hall
Thomas Lord, the founder of Lord's, was playing for Epsom. He was aged
59 and it was his final f-c match. His son, also Thomas Lord, was
playing for Middlesex.
father vs son on opposite teams, that cant have happened too often.
Perhaps Alan Butcher vs 1 of his sons as he spent the last years of his
career at Glamorgan?
mike
Yes, ISTR to recall that Alan and Mark faced each other in a 40-over JPL
match (though it might be that one of them only appeared as a fielding
substitute). As Andy will know, George Gunn and his son, GV Gunn, both
appeared in the same Notts XI and on one occasion both scored a century
in the same innings.
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John Hall

"I don't even butter my bread; I consider that cooking."
Katherine Cebrian
David North
2024-11-17 06:18:12 UTC
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Post by David North
It's the largest innings victory for 50 years, and 4 of the 6 above
it were timeless matches, the exceptions being the two in Pakistan.
https://stats.acscricket.com/Records/First_Class/Overall/Team/
Highest_Innings_Run_Margin.html
    Scanning further down the list, amidst all the usual suspects, I
spotted a win by an innings and 358 by Epsom [!] vs Middlesex, from 1815.
Sadly the actual scorecard is paywalled, but one suspects (a) that Epsom
didn't play that many f-c matches, and (b) that a score of at least 358
must have been pretty unusual in those days.
You can access much of the CA content from before it was paywalled via
the Internet Archive.

http://web.archive.org/web/20220928091858/https://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Scorecards/0/361.html
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David North
Andy Walker
2024-11-18 00:39:36 UTC
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Post by David North
You can access much of the CA content from before it was paywalled via
the Internet Archive.
Thanks, David. I "knew" that, but had forgotten it, having become
used to not bothering when Wiki articles, such as biographies, link to CA
articles. As previously mentioned, most of what I really want is available
via the Notts CCC website, via Cricinfo and via ACS. I did have some quite
grandiose plans for some major historical statistical work, but after I had
been retired for a few years, and then with the paywall, I decided I would
never finish it or get any recognition for it, so I dumped the whole idea
and instead occupy my spare time with music, as per the ".sig", which I can
indulge in and expand in the odd evening as it becomes available.
--
Andy Walker, Nottingham.
Andy's music pages: www.cuboid.me.uk/andy/Music
Composer of the day: www.cuboid.me.uk/andy/Music/Composers/Bach,CPE
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