Super 8s

[miked]

Much better perf from england vs windies. I only saw hilites later but I
think
it was a bit less emphatic than the usual cheerleaders suggest. I still
think
our seamers are a bit easy to hit, but it was a good pitch and theirs
got the
same treatment. Rashid bowled 2 vgood overs in the middle third that
really
helped, although the windies still made 36 from the last 3. A lot of
people
were suggesting changing salt for duckett or bairstow etc, but after
this
hes safe for a while. Not sure why Moeen came in at 3 with 13 overs,
surely youd want brook or bairstow etc to bat as many overs as
possible?
Curran seems preferred to Jordan, perhaps cos hes injured? But they
made
getting 70 off the last 7 look easy.

mike

[John Hall]

Post by miked
Not sure why Moeen came in at 3 with 13 overs,
surely youd want brook or bairstow etc to bat as many overs as
possible?

I've been out today, so haven't even managed to see highlights, so I'll
just respond to this bit. They probably wanted a left-hand, right-hand
combination, to make things harder for the fielding side. That would
especially be so if a slow left-armer was bowling (I don't know whether
one was). Moeen had scored at a very good rate in his earlier innings,
even if they hadn't lasted long.

[miked]

Post by John Hall

Post by miked
Not sure why Moeen came in at 3 with 13 overs,
surely youd want brook or bairstow etc to bat as many overs as
possible?

I've been out today, so haven't even managed to see highlights, so I'll
just respond to this bit. They probably wanted a left-hand, right-hand
combination, to make things harder for the fielding side. That would
especially be so if a slow left-armer was bowling (I don't know whether
one was). Moeen had scored at a very good rate in his earlier innings,
even if they hadn't lasted long.

Might be, i think they were worried about Motie.

The schedule is a bit crazy now, RSA tomorrow, 2 games in 48 hours is a
bit
nuts. I think the same is for Bangles, oz tomorrow then India Saturday.
Oz and India seem to have a bit more time between games.

mike

[miked]

Post by John Hall

Post by miked
Not sure why Moeen came in at 3 with 13 overs,
surely youd want brook or bairstow etc to bat as many overs as
possible?

I've been out today, so haven't even managed to see highlights, so I'll
just respond to this bit. They probably wanted a left-hand, right-hand
combination, to make things harder for the fielding side. That would
especially be so if a slow left-armer was bowling (I don't know whether
one was). Moeen had scored at a very good rate in his earlier innings,
even if they hadn't lasted long.

Might be, I think they were worried about Motie.

Schedule for the super 8s is really crazy, like 100 finals day.
RSA tomorrow, bangles have to play oz and india with hardly
a break. At least India and Oz get a day off. If they insist on
having another group stage they really should schedule time for it.
Apologies if this post twice, connection broke.

mike

[miked]

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Post by John Hall

Post by miked
Not sure why Moeen came in at 3 with 13 overs,
surely youd want brook or bairstow etc to bat as many overs as
possible?

I've been out today, so haven't even managed to see highlights, so I'll
just respond to this bit. They probably wanted a left-hand, right-hand
combination, to make things harder for the fielding side. That would
especially be so if a slow left-armer was bowling (I don't know whether
one was). Moeen had scored at a very good rate in his earlier innings,
even if they hadn't lasted long.

Might be, I think they were worried about Motie.
Schedule for the super 8s is really crazy, like 100 finals day.
RSA tomorrow, bangles have to play oz and india with hardly
a break. At least India and Oz get a day off. If they insist on
having another group stage they really should schedule time for it.
Apologies if this post twice, connection broke.
mike

Easy win for oz vs bdesh today. In this group the super8 seems
superfluous, as both india and oz will go through to the SFs whoever
wins the the match between them. By the time they play each other
both will be thro. Would have been better to have them play
each other first to keep some tension. More competitive in
the other group, since RSA have a strong bowling attack and some
heavy hitters like Klaasen & Kock, Windies despite their loss
are at home, USA might spring a surprise.

mike

[dnorth]

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Post by miked

Post by John Hall

Post by miked
Not sure why Moeen came in at 3 with 13 overs,
surely youd want brook or bairstow etc to bat as many overs as
possible?

I've been out today, so haven't even managed to see highlights, so I'll
just respond to this bit. They probably wanted a left-hand, right-hand
combination, to make things harder for the fielding side. That would
especially be so if a slow left-armer was bowling (I don't know whether
one was). Moeen had scored at a very good rate in his earlier innings,
even if they hadn't lasted long.

Might be, I think they were worried about Motie.
Schedule for the super 8s is really crazy, like 100 finals day.
RSA tomorrow, bangles have to play oz and india with hardly
a break. At least India and Oz get a day off. If they insist on
having another group stage they really should schedule time for it.
Apologies if this post twice, connection broke.
mike

Easy win for oz vs bdesh today. In this group the super8 seems
superfluous, as both india and oz will go through to the SFs whoever
wins the the match between them. By the time they play each other
both will be thro.

Probably, but the team that finishes top will play the 2nd-placed team
from the other group in the SFs, so there will be a theoretical
advantage to winning.

[miked]

Post by dnorth

Post by miked

Post by miked
Schedule for the super 8s is really crazy, like 100 finals day.
RSA tomorrow, bangles have to play oz and india with hardly
a break. At least India and Oz get a day off. If they insist on
having another group stage they really should schedule time for it.
Apologies if this post twice, connection broke.
mike

Easy win for oz vs bdesh today. In this group the super8 seems
superfluous, as both india and oz will go through to the SFs whoever
wins the the match between them. By the time they play each other
both will be thro.

Probably, but the team that finishes top will play the 2nd-placed team
from the other group in the SFs, so there will be a theoretical
advantage to winning.

Yes thats true, but for england if they do qualify, they will play
oz or india, not much of a choice ;)

I know england like to chase, but i think i might have wanted first
dig on a hot day like this, and hope the ball does something under
lights
or when the pitch has had some use. Mad dogs and englishmen goes the
song.

mike

[David North]

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Post by dnorth

Post by miked

Post by miked
Schedule for the super 8s is really crazy, like 100 finals day.
RSA tomorrow, bangles have to play oz and india with hardly
a break. At least India and Oz get a day off. If they insist on
having another group stage they really should schedule time for it.
Apologies if this post twice, connection broke.
mike

Easy win for oz vs bdesh today. In this group the super8 seems
superfluous, as both india and oz will go through to the SFs whoever
wins the the match between them. By the time they play each other
both will be thro.

Probably, but the team that finishes top will play the 2nd-placed team
from the other group in the SFs, so there will be a theoretical
advantage to winning.

Yes thats true, but for england if they do qualify, they will play
oz or india, not much of a choice ;)

England's last match is before the Aus/India match, so they wouldn't
have had the 'choice' anyway. As it is now, if they get through, they'll
probably be playing the winners.

[miked]

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Post by miked

Post by dnorth

Post by miked

Post by miked
Schedule for the super 8s is really crazy, like 100 finals day.
RSA tomorrow, bangles have to play oz and india with hardly
a break. At least India and Oz get a day off. If they insist on
having another group stage they really should schedule time for it.
Apologies if this post twice, connection broke.
mike

Easy win for oz vs bdesh today. In this group the super8 seems
superfluous, as both india and oz will go through to the SFs whoever
wins the the match between them. By the time they play each other
both will be thro.

Probably, but the team that finishes top will play the 2nd-placed team
from the other group in the SFs, so there will be a theoretical
advantage to winning.

Yes thats true, but for england if they do qualify, they will play
oz or india, not much of a choice ;)

England's last match is before the Aus/India match, so they wouldn't
have had the 'choice' anyway. As it is now, if they get through, they'll
probably be playing the winners.

Yes i should have said difference, in that both India and oz are
stronger
on current form and bowling in particular. But now that windies have
walloped USA, if they manage a win vs RSA, we could be out. I dunno
what the coefficient is needed for us to overhaul windies NRR, but it
could
go down to that. I think actually where 2or3 sides finish on equal
points
it should be decided on head to head perhaps and then NRR if still not
decided. They do that in the footy now, and only after that use goal
difference.

mike

[David North]

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Post by David North

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Post by dnorth

Post by miked

Post by miked
Schedule for the super 8s is really crazy, like 100 finals day.
RSA tomorrow, bangles have to play oz and india with hardly
a break. At least India and Oz get a day off. If they insist on
having another group stage they really should schedule time for it.
Apologies if this post twice, connection broke.
mike

Easy win for oz vs bdesh today. In this group the super8 seems
superfluous, as both india and oz will go through to the SFs whoever
wins the the match between them. By the time they play each other
both will be thro.

Probably, but the team that finishes top will play the 2nd-placed team
from the other group in the SFs, so there will be a theoretical
advantage to winning.

Yes thats true, but for england if they do qualify, they will play
oz or india, not much of a choice ;)

England's last match is before the Aus/India match, so they wouldn't
have had the 'choice' anyway. As it is now, if they get through, they'll
probably be playing the winners.

Yes i should have said difference, in that both India and oz are
stronger
on current form and bowling in particular. But now that windies have
walloped USA, if they manage a win vs RSA, we could be out. I dunno
what the coefficient is needed for us to overhaul windies NRR, but it
could
go down to that.

To decide who finishes top, yes.

If WI beat SA and Eng beat USA, Eng will probably be ahead of SA on NRR
as they are only 0.213 behind at the moment. It would need both matches
to be very close for SA to remain ahead.

Post by miked
I think actually where 2or3 sides finish on equal
points
it should be decided on head to head perhaps and then NRR if still not
decided. They do that in the footy now, and only after that use goal
difference.

I think they have had in some previous ICC tournaments. One downside is
that it makes it more likely that some teams will have qualified before
the final matches. If A and B finish level on points and A beat B, it is
nearly always the case that A also lost to a team that B beat, so I'm
not convinced that the match between A and B should take priority. If A
beat B by 1 run, but B thrashed C and C thrashed A, would A really
deserve to be placed ahead of B?

If 3 teams finish level on points, it is nearly always the case that
each of them won one and lost one of the matches between the 3 (in
cricket at least; in football, it could be that all 3 matches were
drawn), so then it would presumably be decided on NRR in those 3 matches.

[John Hall]

In message <***@www.novabbs.com>, miked
<***@library.net> writes
<snip>

Post by miked
But now that windies have
walloped USA, if they manage a win vs RSA, we could be out. I dunno
what the coefficient is needed for us to overhaul windies NRR, but it
could
go down to that. I think actually where 2or3 sides finish on equal
points
it should be decided on head to head perhaps and then NRR if still not
decided. They do that in the footy now, and only after that use goal
difference.

It probably wouldn't help in this case, though, as the scenario would be
WI beat SA, SA beat England and England beat WI. But if that happened,
assuming England beat the US then their overall NRR will almost
certainly be better than SA's.

[David North]

Post by miked
Easy win for oz vs bdesh today. In this group the super8 seems
superfluous, as both india and oz will go through to the SFs whoever
wins the the match between them. By the time they play each other
both will be thro. Would have been better to have them play
each other first to keep some tension.

There will be some tension now! Congratulations to Afghanistan. Now
no-one is through.

If India wins, they go through, and Afghanistan will just need to beat
Bangladesh.

If Australia wins, whichever of the two finishes with the better NRR
will go through, and Afghanistan will know exactly what they need to do
to finish above the other one (or they should - if they bat second,
hopefully someone will do _all_ the calculations this time).

[David North]

Post by David North

Post by miked
Easy win for oz vs bdesh today. In this group the super8 seems
superfluous, as both india and oz will go through to the SFs whoever
wins the the match between them. By the time they play each other
both will be thro. Would have been better to have them play
each other first to keep some tension.

There will be some tension now! Congratulations to Afghanistan. Now
no-one is through.
If India wins, they go through, and Afghanistan will just need to beat
Bangladesh.
If Australia wins, whichever of the two finishes with the better NRR
will go through, and Afghanistan will know exactly what they need to do
to finish above the other one (or they should - if they bat second,
hopefully someone will do _all_ the calculations this time).

If Australia bats first, they need to win by 15 runs to finish above
India. If they bat second, they need to win with about 10 balls to
spare, depending on the target and how many they pass it by.

Both scenarios above assume a full 20-over match.

If Aus just succeeds, or just fails, in finishing ahead of India on NRR,
Afghanistan will need to win by about 110 runs or reach their target in
about 5-6 overs.

If Aus wins by 1 run or 29 runs, Afghanistan's win requirement comes
down to 94 runs or about 7-8 overs.

[miked]

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Post by David North

Post by miked
Easy win for oz vs bdesh today. In this group the super8 seems
superfluous, as both india and oz will go through to the SFs whoever
wins the the match between them. By the time they play each other
both will be thro. Would have been better to have them play
each other first to keep some tension.

There will be some tension now! Congratulations to Afghanistan. Now
no-one is through.
If India wins, they go through, and Afghanistan will just need to beat
Bangladesh.
If Australia wins, whichever of the two finishes with the better NRR
will go through, and Afghanistan will know exactly what they need to do
to finish above the other one (or they should - if they bat second,
hopefully someone will do _all_ the calculations this time).

If Australia bats first, they need to win by 15 runs to finish above
India. If they bat second, they need to win with about 10 balls to
spare, depending on the target and how many they pass it by.
Both scenarios above assume a full 20-over match.
If Aus just succeeds, or just fails, in finishing ahead of India on NRR,
Afghanistan will need to win by about 110 runs or reach their target in
about 5-6 overs.
If Aus wins by 1 run or 29 runs, Afghanistan's win requirement comes
down to 94 runs or about 7-8 overs.

Assuming anything in this WC seems unwise! I think England would have
come unstuck on a spin freindly pitch like that. However i wonder
whether
England will get a game today. Could be NR cos the forcast says chance
of t-storms in btown all day.

mike

[miked]

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Post by David North
There will be some tension now! Congratulations to Afghanistan. Now
no-one is through.

Assuming anything in this WC seems unwise! I think England would have
come unstuck on a spin freindly pitch like that. However i wonder
whether
England will get a game today. Could be NR cos the forcast says chance
of t-storms in btown all day.
mike

Well its on, 10 overs in and we def have a game, but hopefully the
rain will stay away. USA not awed by our quicks. TMS had a stat that
England have the 2nd worst bowling in the powerplay this WC, only 1 of
the minnows was worse. Kindof suprised that they didnt open with Moeen.

mike

[miked]

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Post by miked

Post by David North
There will be some tension now! Congratulations to Afghanistan. Now
no-one is through.

Assuming anything in this WC seems unwise! I think England would have
come unstuck on a spin freindly pitch like that. However i wonder
whether
England will get a game today. Could be NR cos the forcast says chance
of t-storms in btown all day.
mike

Well its on, 10 overs in and we def have a game, but hopefully the
rain will stay away. USA not awed by our quicks. TMS had a stat that
England have the 2nd worst bowling in the powerplay this WC, only 1 of
the minnows was worse. Kindof suprised that they didnt open with Moeen.
mike

Well it was easy in the end. That was some over from CJ! I take it that
England are through whatever the windies/RSA outcome, but if RSA win,
which
is what i expect, England will play the winners of the other group which
ATM
seems likely to be India.

mike

[David North]

Post by miked

Post by miked

Post by miked

Post by David North
There will be some tension now! Congratulations to Afghanistan. Now
no-one is through.

Assuming anything in this WC seems unwise! I think England would have
come unstuck on a spin freindly pitch like that. However i wonder
whether
England will get a game today. Could be NR cos the forcast says chance
of t-storms in btown all day.
mike

Well its on, 10 overs in and we def have a game, but hopefully the
rain will stay away. USA not awed by our quicks. TMS had a stat that
England have the 2nd worst bowling in the powerplay this WC, only 1 of
the minnows was worse. Kindof suprised that they didnt open with Moeen.
mike

Well it was easy in the end. That was some over from CJ!

Yes, and he took the catch off the final ball of Curran's previous over,
so he had a hand in 5 wickets in 6 balls.

Post by miked
I take it that
England are through whatever the windies/RSA outcome,

Yes

Post by miked
but if RSA win,
which
is what i expect, England will play the winners of the other group which
ATM
seems likely to be India.

Yes

[John Hall]

Post by miked
Well it was easy in the end. That was some over from CJ! I take it that
England are through whatever the windies/RSA outcome, but if RSA win,
which
is what i expect, England will play the winners of the other group which
ATM
seems likely to be India.
mike

Yes, it looks almost certain that India will be the opponents. The
silver lining to that is that I believe it will be a day game on
Thursday, so in the afternoon or early evening UK time, whereas the
other semi-final will be in the small hours of the morning UK time.

I wonder what the result of the SA v WI game would have been had 45
minutes not been lost to rain and DLS come into play. It's possible that
WI might have won narrowly, which would have left England at the top of
the group, and probably playing Australia though possibly Afghanistan.

I was amused during the Sky commentary on England v the USA when Eoin
Morgan said something like "both England and the US are playing each
other for the first time". I suppose if you apply Irish logic, it would
be possible for only one country to be playing the other for the first
time. :)

[Andy Walker]

Post by John Hall
I was amused during the Sky commentary on England v the USA when Eoin
Morgan said something like "both England and the US are playing each
other for the first time". I suppose if you apply Irish logic, it
would be possible for only one country to be playing the other for
the first time. :)

Hmm. Irishness apart, I suppose someone should point out that
England played the US in the Elysian Fields at Hoboken and a week later
at Camac Woods, Philadelphia, in 1859. You might grumble that the English
team was not "selected" in the modern sense, but was merely a private tour;
but the same could be said of the early tours to Oz. You might equally
grumble that the US team was a XXII, but the tour was to make money, not
to satisfy not-yet formalised notions of first-class cricket. It was an
historical accident that one of the Oz tours was recognised as providing
the first "Test". But the tour of the US and Canada was certainly cricket.

There was nearly a tour by an England team to France in 1789, but
it was overtaken by political events in France. So had it not been for
French and American politics [later tours of the US were intended, but
scuppered by the Civil War, after which baseball largely took over], the
history of cricket internationally could have been completely different.

[miked]

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Post by miked
Well it was easy in the end. That was some over from CJ! I take it that
England are through whatever the windies/RSA outcome, but if RSA win,
which
is what i expect, England will play the winners of the other group which
ATM
seems likely to be India.
mike

Yes, it looks almost certain that India will be the opponents. The
silver lining to that is that I believe it will be a day game on
Thursday, so in the afternoon or early evening UK time, whereas the
other semi-final will be in the small hours of the morning UK time.

So even if Oz beat India, they can only finish 2nd cos of NRR. These
super8s turned out more competitive than i expected, but whoever
england face they will have to raise their game someway to get to
the final. So far in their meandering progress theyve beaten Oman,
namibia, Windies and USA while losing to Oz & RSA. Theyve only
looked good against the minnows and windies.

Rashid has really bowled well in the last few matches, but I expect
he wont be so efective against Indias batters, so the seamers
surely have to do a lot better than they did against oz and RSA.
Wood has been very off his best, apart from the oman game, i think
they said he had bowled 10 overs for over 100 runs. Archer has been
often v expensive in the powerplay, so it might be better to bowl
him later where he seems much more effective.

Also england dont seem to have a settled no3. I thought that if
someone is coming in at 3 and its still the powerplay, they
would be batter to have livingstone as the pinch hitter when
the fielding restrictions are still in play.

mike

[dnorth]

Post by John Hall

Post by miked
Well it was easy in the end. That was some over from CJ! I take it that
England are through whatever the windies/RSA outcome, but if RSA win,
which
is what i expect, England will play the winners of the other group which
ATM
seems likely to be India.
mike

Yes, it looks almost certain that India will be the opponents.

'Almost certain' is far too strong. As I mentioned previously, if Aus
win by 15 runs or with about 10 balls to spare, they will move ahead of
India on NRR. Remembering what happened in the ODI WC Final, after India
had won all of their other matches, that doesn't seem particularly
unlikely.

Post by John Hall
The
silver lining to that is that I believe it will be a day game on
Thursday, so in the afternoon or early evening UK time, whereas the
other semi-final will be in the small hours of the morning UK time.
I wonder what the result of the SA v WI game would have been had 45
minutes not been lost to rain and DLS come into play. It's possible that
WI might have won narrowly,

Maybe, although CI's Win Probability graph had SA at 74% just before the
interruption.

[miked]

Post by dnorth

Post by John Hall

Post by miked
Well it was easy in the end. That was some over from CJ! I take it that
England are through whatever the windies/RSA outcome, but if RSA win,
which
is what i expect, England will play the winners of the other group which
ATM
seems likely to be India.
mike

Yes, it looks almost certain that India will be the opponents.

'Almost certain' is far too strong. As I mentioned previously, if Aus
win by 15 runs or with about 10 balls to spare, they will move ahead of
India on NRR. Remembering what happened in the ODI WC Final, after India
had won all of their other matches, that doesn't seem particularly
unlikely.

ATM it seems quite possible. but i thought india was like +2 on NRR,
while oz was about +o.5.

I was wondering while panda was being carted, why jadega hadnt had a
bowl,
but when he did finally come on, he got the same treatment!

mike

mike

[David North]

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Post by dnorth

Post by John Hall

Post by miked
Well it was easy in the end. That was some over from CJ! I take it that
England are through whatever the windies/RSA outcome, but if RSA win,
which
is what i expect, England will play the winners of the other group which
ATM
seems likely to be India.
mike

Yes, it looks almost certain that India will be the opponents.

'Almost certain' is far too strong. As I mentioned previously, if Aus
win by 15 runs or with about 10 balls to spare, they will move ahead of
India on NRR. Remembering what happened in the ODI WC Final, after India
had won all of their other matches, that doesn't seem particularly
unlikely.

ATM it seems quite possible. but i thought india was like +2 on NRR,
while oz was about +o.5.

They were on +2.425 and +0.223, but those were only from two matches
each, so it doesn't take much to close that gap in a third match between
the two, especially when Australia's match against Bangladesh was
reduced by rain to 11.2 overs a side*, which meant that it carried
little more than half the weight of their other two matches in the NRR
calculation.

*Bangladesh batted for the full 20 overs, but the calculation uses their
DLS-revised total over 11.2 overs.

[John Hall]

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Post by miked
Well it was easy in the end. That was some over from CJ! I take it that
England are through whatever the windies/RSA outcome, but if RSA win,
which
is what i expect, England will play the winners of the other group which
ATM
seems likely to be India.
mike

Yes, it looks almost certain that India will be the opponents.

'Almost certain' is far too strong. As I mentioned previously, if Aus
win by 15 runs or with about 10 balls to spare, they will move ahead of
India on NRR. Remembering what happened in the ODI WC Final, after India
had won all of their other matches, that doesn't seem particularly
unlikely.

ATM it seems quite possible. but i thought india was like +2 on NRR,
while oz was about +o.5.

They were on +2.425 and +0.223, but those were only from two matches
each, so it doesn't take much to close that gap in a third match
between the two, especially when Australia's match against Bangladesh
was reduced by rain to 11.2 overs a side*, which meant that it carried
little more than half the weight of their other two matches in the NRR
calculation.
*Bangladesh batted for the full 20 overs, but the calculation uses
their DLS-revised total over 11.2 overs.

Congrats to Affhanistan on qualifying for the semis. Their task of
beating Bangadesh may have been made a little easier by the Bangles
initially trying to knock of their target in 12 overs or so (I think it
was) in order to qualify ahead of Australia on NRR.

[miked]

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Post by John Hall
Yes, it looks almost certain that India will be the opponents.

'Almost certain' is far too strong. As I mentioned previously, if Aus
win by 15 runs or with about 10 balls to spare, they will move ahead of
India on NRR. Remembering what happened in the ODI WC Final, after India
had won all of their other matches, that doesn't seem particularly
unlikely.

ATM it seems quite possible. but i thought india was like +2 on NRR,
while oz was about +o.5.

They were on +2.425 and +0.223, but those were only from two matches
each, so it doesn't take much to close that gap in a third match
between the two, especially when Australia's match against Bangladesh
was reduced by rain to 11.2 overs a side*, which meant that it carried
little more than half the weight of their other two matches in the NRR
calculation.
*Bangladesh batted for the full 20 overs, but the calculation uses
their DLS-revised total over 11.2 overs.

Congrats to Affhanistan on qualifying for the semis. Their task of
beating Bangadesh may have been made a little easier by the Bangles
initially trying to knock of their target in 12 overs or so (I think it
was) in order to qualify ahead of Australia on NRR.

yes in the end it was all very close as after oz loss to both afghan and
india it meant both bdesh and afghan could still qualify. afghans dont
have much batting but if they play RSA on a spin frendly pitch they
could reach the final. cant really see england beating india though,
especially in the heat.

mike

[John Hall]

In message <***@www.novabbs.com>, miked
<***@library.net> writes
<snip>

Post by miked
yes in the end it was all very close as after oz loss to both afghan and
india it meant both bdesh and afghan could still qualify. afghans dont
have much batting but if they play RSA on a spin frendly pitch they
could reach the final. cant really see england beating india though,
especially in the heat.

I expect it will be another slow pitch, like most of them have been,
3which won't really play to England's strengths. Though India are strong
favourites, I would rule England out, though.

[John Hall]

Post by John Hall
<snip>

Post by miked
yes in the end it was all very close as after oz loss to both afghan and
india it meant both bdesh and afghan could still qualify. afghans dont
have much batting but if they play RSA on a spin frendly pitch they
could reach the final. cant really see england beating india though,
especially in the heat.

I expect it will be another slow pitch, like most of them have been,
3which won't really play to England's strengths. Though India are
strong favourites, I would rule England out, though.

That was supposed to read "wouldn't rule England out".