Louis Kimber!

[John Hall]

As his innings was played at Hove, I wonder if he had been possessed by
the ghost of Ted Alletson, who back before WW1 once did something
similar.

[miked]

Post by John Hall
As his innings was played at Hove, I wonder if he had been possessed by
the ghost of Ted Alletson, who back before WW1 once did something
similar.

I'd never heard of alletson but i gather he was a tailender whereas
kimber is i believe a batter who bowls a bit, but he came in at 144-6
so it certainly must have been incredible to watch. He hit 43 off 1
over from robbo which included 3nb. I'd again forgotten that nb is
worth 2 so that several of his 4s became 6s. Bet robbos back is
really bad after that mauling. Shame he didnt finish on the winning
side. Other records he broke; most 6s in a CC innings and fastest 200.

mike

[John Hall]

Post by miked

Post by John Hall
As his innings was played at Hove, I wonder if he had been possessed by
the ghost of Ted Alletson, who back before WW1 once did something
similar.

I'd never heard of alletson but i gather he was a tailender whereas
kimber is i believe a batter who bowls a bit,

Well he came in at number 8, which suggests Leicestershire didn't rate
his batting too highly. He only had one previous f-c century and a
batting average of 24 (which admittedly is pretty good for a number 8).

Post by miked
but he came in at 144-6
so it certainly must have been incredible to watch. He hit 43 off 1
over from robbo which included 3nb. I'd again forgotten that nb is
worth 2 so that several of his 4s became 6s.

He doesn't get credited with the runs for the no-balls himself, though.
But even so, there were apparently 21 sixes in his innings, smashing the
Championship record of 17 which none other than Ben Stokes set a few
years ago.

Post by miked
Bet robbos back is
really bad after that mauling. Shame he didnt finish on the winning
side. Other records he broke; most 6s in a CC innings and fastest 200.

Yep. Sussex must have been sweating, as what had looked like being a
routine victory a couple of hours later became a close run thing.

[Mad Hamish]

On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 08:53:00 +0100, John Hall

Post by John Hall

Post by miked

Post by John Hall
As his innings was played at Hove, I wonder if he had been possessed by
the ghost of Ted Alletson, who back before WW1 once did something
similar.

I'd never heard of alletson but i gather he was a tailender whereas
kimber is i believe a batter who bowls a bit,

Well he came in at number 8, which suggests Leicestershire didn't rate
his batting too highly.

Scott Currie went up from #10 to #7 in the 2nd innings with a couple
of overs to go on day 3 so it looks like Kimber was dropped down
because of a nightwatchman

Post by John Hall
He only had one previous f-c century and a
batting average of 24 (which admittedly is pretty good for a number 8).

He's got a strange record so far
31 first class matches Averages 29 after this innings, 2 100s 8 50s
from 48 innings
He's bowled in 17 innings for 7 wickets @ 73

In list A he's averaging 40 and striking at 105 with 1 100 and 6 50s
from 24 innings in 27 matches
he's bowled in 8 innings and has 8 wickets @ 22.25 going at 5.96 rpo
T20s he's averaging 19, striking at 149 with 3 50s from 25 innings
he's bowled in 5 innings and has 1 wicket @ 71 going at 10 rpo

also listed as a wicketkeeper but has 26 catches in first class
cricket, 9 in list A and 17 in T20s, no stumpings
So I presume he's not playing as a keeper often

Post by John Hall

Post by miked
but he came in at 144-6
so it certainly must have been incredible to watch. He hit 43 off 1
over from robbo which included 3nb. I'd again forgotten that nb is
worth 2 so that several of his 4s became 6s.

He doesn't get credited with the runs for the no-balls himself, though.
But even so, there were apparently 21 sixes in his innings, smashing the
Championship record of 17 which none other than Ben Stokes set a few
years ago.

Post by miked
Bet robbos back is
really bad after that mauling. Shame he didnt finish on the winning
side. Other records he broke; most 6s in a CC innings and fastest 200.

Yep. Sussex must have been sweating, as what had looked like being a
routine victory a couple of hours later became a close run thing.

[miked]

Post by Mad Hamish
On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 08:53:00 +0100, John Hall

Post by John Hall

Post by miked

Post by John Hall
As his innings was played at Hove, I wonder if he had been possessed by
the ghost of Ted Alletson, who back before WW1 once did something
similar.

I'd never heard of alletson but i gather he was a tailender whereas
kimber is i believe a batter who bowls a bit,

Well he came in at number 8, which suggests Leicestershire didn't rate
his batting too highly.

Scott Currie went up from #10 to #7 in the 2nd innings with a couple
of overs to go on day 3 so it looks like Kimber was dropped down
because of a nightwatchman

Post by John Hall
He only had one previous f-c century and a
batting average of 24 (which admittedly is pretty good for a number 8).

He's got a strange record so far
31 first class matches Averages 29 after this innings, 2 100s 8 50s
from 48 innings
In list A he's averaging 40 and striking at 105 with 1 100 and 6 50s
from 24 innings in 27 matches
T20s he's averaging 19, striking at 149 with 3 50s from 25 innings
also listed as a wicketkeeper but has 26 catches in first class
cricket, 9 in list A and 17 in T20s, no stumpings
So I presume he's not playing as a keeper often

usual keeper i think is Cox this season. Cox who supported kimber
really well got hit on the box and was out next ball. I think last
season
handscomb was keeper, even though swindell? is quite a good keeper
batter himself. dunno where he is now.

Post by Mad Hamish

Post by John Hall

Post by miked
but he came in at 144-6
so it certainly must have been incredible to watch. He hit 43 off 1
over from robbo which included 3nb. I'd again forgotten that nb is
worth 2 so that several of his 4s became 6s.

He doesn't get credited with the runs for the no-balls himself, though.
But even so, there were apparently 21 sixes in his innings, smashing the
Championship record of 17 which none other than Ben Stokes set a few
years ago.

Post by miked
Bet robbos back is
really bad after that mauling. Shame he didnt finish on the winning
side. Other records he broke; most 6s in a CC innings and fastest 200.

Yep. Sussex must have been sweating, as what had looked like being a
routine victory a couple of hours later became a close run thing.

leics should have won as ben mike is a decent batter but lobbed up an
easy
chance. I saw the robbo over on the net. He was really charging in
and i think bowling a lot faster than he was last i saw him - i mean
he usually just joggs in casually - and bowled a series of bouncers
most down the leg side which kimber smashed to the boundary. I suspect
the 3 nbs were probably due to him running in faster than usual, but
Kimber moved about a yard to leg and smashed 1 of these through square!

I wonder whether england have told him hes got to bowl a yard
quicker if he wants to be a regular this summer. Usually hes just
either side of 80mphs. However in 6 CC games so far hes taken just
21wkts at 27 which is pretty poor for him.

I believe Lawrence bashed bashir for 38 in 1 over in the surrey game.

mike

[Mad Hamish]

Post by miked

Post by John Hall
As his innings was played at Hove, I wonder if he had been possessed by
the ghost of Ted Alletson, who back before WW1 once did something
similar.

I'd never heard of alletson but i gather he was a tailender

Alletson is hard to figure out.
Apparently a professional he played
119 matches for 3217 runs @ 18.59 1 100 and 13 50s
33 wickets @ 19.03 1 5w/i

I know things were different before WWI but looking at those figures I
can't see how he played so often

In this match he was 47* at lunch in about an hour them hit 142 in 40
minutes and he was caught in the deep and there's talk that the
fieldsman actually broke the boundary so he should have been on 195*
in 90 minutes, the fastest double century in first class cricket is
103 minutes and until 1984 the 2 fastest first class double 100s were
120 minutes...

Before this match he was apparently a blocker, afterwards he hit quite
a few fast 50s but never really went on with it.

Post by miked
whereas
kimber is i believe a batter who bowls a bit, but he came in at 144-6
so it certainly must have been incredible to watch.

Yeah,

has some highlights
he does slog a few but he's hitting some really nice shots as well.
I wonder whether with his hand position if he can actually hook or
pull down but I guess if you're hitting them like that you don't have
to in most places.

Post by miked
He hit 43 off 1
over from robbo which included 3nb. I'd again forgotten that nb is
worth 2 so that several of his 4s became 6s. Bet robbos back is
really bad after that mauling. Shame he didnt finish on the winning
side. Other records he broke; most 6s in a CC innings and fastest 200.

[Andy Walker]

Post by Mad Hamish
Alletson is hard to figure out.
Apparently a professional he played
I know things were different before WWI but looking at those figures I
can't see how he played so often

I haven't read Arlott's book on "Alletson's Innings", so can't
give any sort of authoritative reply, but I have read a reasonable number
of books on Notts cricket, and AFAIR none of them have a particularly
good explanation either. Perhaps [but I haven't seen any evidence either
for or against] he was an outstanding fielder? Another factor to take
into account is that Notts [like Yorks] mostly selected local-born players,
so if Alletson had been dropped, some other local club player would have
had to come in. They had a reasonably settled side, and the other players
who were experimented with were not howling successes. Alletson's record
is not great compared with "famous" players of the period, but you really
should compare him instead with other marginal players.

Two other notes: (a) "Cricinfo" describes his famous match against
Sussex as his [only] "recent" match! (b) For a somewhat different take on
him, see

https://www.inyourarea.co.uk/news/nearly-200-for-ted-in-just-ninety-minutes/

which is, perhaps surprisingly, mostly about a different match and innings.